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 Post subject: Live vs Online
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2008 17:51 
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It is said that most people play poker online than live which is probably true because it is hard to fit 120000 into the bellagio.

But who finds live much better than online poker sites. that are apparently rigged


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 Post subject: live is better
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2008 18:01 
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I dont know i think that live poker is the better of the two. Some times u can get a good read on some one by the way they are acting at the table. Also there is alot to be added to the fun of playing by getting a group together and playing. PFO is alot like that. i realy dont care if i win as long as i see all my friends there and we have some good table talk. Its alot like playing live cause we all know each other.
I play a local live thing and it was tough to get in with them cause it is an open tournament and any and all are welcome. but after a few months of playing you get to know alot of them real well. It is fun to get togerher with them once a week and grind it out
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PostPosted: 22 Apr 2008 23:35 
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I definitely feel like I have a lot more control over things live. Even though when our aces get beat we would all swear up and down that the sites were rigged, the reality is that no one is probably taking the time to steal my small to average bankroll when they could focus on much bigger people if they could cheat. The reason I enjoy playing live is because people with experience seem to always have funny stories to tell and there is just something about feeding off other people's vibes when they are next to you.


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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2008 16:34 
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I play both live and online. I personally prefer live play as it is more fun and challenging. Online is good for playing with solely betting strategies, but it cannot beat a good live game.


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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2008 18:38 
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I prefer playing live as opposed to online. I feel like I'm better at reading people during live games then online. You really get to study the person live, and try to pick up on any slight ticks or tells they might have. Also the atmosphere seems a lot relaxed when your face to face, especially when it's with a group of friends.


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[font="Comic Sans MS"][color="DimGray"]Both are useful to my game, hope it's the same for all of you guys.
Learning quick with online games.
Using experiences to play in live games.
The fact is that we all look for being good players, but none will be without playing live games.[/color][/font]

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PostPosted: 30 Apr 2008 19:47 
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to me live is alot better because you can get a beter read and its alot less rigged. thats just my opinion tho


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PostPosted: 13 May 2008 11:31 
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live poker is way better than online if for no other reason than there isnt as many bad beats your ace high fush is probaly not getting beat by the st8 flush your full house isnt getting beat by quads for the most part. i like online poker dont get me wrong but i use it to get better at playing my cards and looking for betting and time tells but live you also have to read people and body language while hiding yours i just think online is a great way to improve skills for live play


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PostPosted: 13 May 2008 16:26 
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Live poker is better for playing a regular poker game, instead of tournaments....I prefer playing online poker tournaments because it's a lot more comfortable since you're at your home playing in a comfortable environment...For live tournaments you can't really do analyzations of emotional responses since you keep moving around so it all depends on what sorts of bets you make. So for tournaments, its better online, regular, its better live :D


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 Post subject: live vs online
PostPosted: 14 May 2008 20:28 
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Personally I love the feel of cards in my hand and chips in front of me, though I've really only played live two or three times at an actual casnio, I play online alot and it tends to cheat me out of alot of hands, lol. Oh well thats my two bits anyways


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PostPosted: 14 May 2008 20:53 
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Personally I like the atmosphere of a live game. Conversation, the comrade re, I guess it's mainly the social aspect. I am a very social person. I also feel that reading a person is a big and important part of the game. Personal preference.


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PostPosted: 15 May 2008 00:10 
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i play pub poker bit of fun
not the same as casino
they play hard and im not game enof
so in online for me:beer:


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PostPosted: 21 May 2008 00:32 
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playing online is just not the same as playing with other people. I too like to feel the chips and cards in my hand, and trash talk at the table. Plus it's nice just to get together with friends and have a good time.


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PostPosted: 21 May 2008 01:34 
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poppaneptune wrote:
I definitely feel like I have a lot more control over things live. Even though when our aces get beat we would all swear up and down that the sites were rigged, the reality is that no one is probably taking the time to steal my small to average bankroll when they could focus on much bigger people if they could cheat.


Online poker site use a seed number for the random number generator to keep things supposedly random. Now I am not going to say the poker sites try and cheat any one player, BUT... poker sites have and will do this.
Run and analyze seed numbers to find the seed numbers that produce the greatest number of "good" hands dealt. This way poker sites will be guarenteed larger pots and therefore larger rakes. This isnt cheating per say because the poker site doesnt care who gets what hand when... just as long as the random number generator spits out more 'power' hands in a set amount of hands compared with other seed numbers.

Poker sites goto great lengths telling players how their RNG(random number generator) is secure and random and how they are monitored to ensure the RNG is working. But they rarely if ever speak of their seed number or how they generate said seed number.

In conclusion, your correct, nobody is trying to take your small/average bankroll. But by using random number streams that generate more high hands(and therefore more bad beats/suckouts) the poker sites generate far more rake... and i think everyone knows poker sites make all their money on rake.

I could go on and on about this lol
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PostPosted: 21 May 2008 17:23 
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I like the volume of play that you can get in online. But at the same time its great to get together with some friends live and play a game or two. :beer:
Live you get to see your opponents and get a better read on them. Of course with friends its more for fun, the converations and laughs make for a better time than online play. :happy3:
Hopefully I'll be able to put a little of column A into column B once I get to know everyone around here and visa versa. Its seems like a pretty chill community around here. :cool:


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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 10:59 
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I have heard a lot about how there are more suckouts online etc, etc. I have never seen any hard statistical data showing this.

Even if it were true then you would simply adjust your strategy to compensate.

Ex. You are dealt 89o in the BB. Everyone folds to the SB, who shoves all in for 3x BB. You know that the SB is a rock and is only shoving with a high pair. Conventinal math says you should not call because you are only getting 2 to 1 odds and need slighty better tha 4 to 1. However, you are playing online and statistical data has shown that 89o actually wins 1/3 of the time instead of 1/5 of the time. You call.

Show me statistical data that proves, over a large enough sample size, that hand results do not conform to conventional mathematical models and I will belive it. And I will change my entire online game and have a hugely massive edge over 99% of all the player online who think poclet aces will win 4 out 5 times against 89o.


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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 12:08 
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I'm assuming that you haven't seen any large statictical anomallies in those 500k hand, right?

The swings are greatly magnified in online poker. I play on Bodog and they limit you to 3 tables(shitty) but even so I can see about 150 hands an hour with 3 full ring games. In a full game at a casino you are talking a maximum of 30 hands an hour if the game and dealer are ultra fast. In 1.5 online hours I can do a whole days worth of live playing.


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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 12:17 
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I'm agreeing with you ganjasmoker. Online players say there are more bad beats because they see more hands total. The percentage of bad beats is the same, but if you pay 5 times as many hand you will see 5 times as many bad beats.


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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 20:07 
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Man playing live is so much fun. You get to meet great people and although you realize you're all going for the same prize there still seems to be a fairly light atmosphere. It's a great feeling to know that you have to watch your every move because people are looking for tells and that just makes the competition all the more fun.


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PostPosted: 29 May 2008 18:07 
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Look... there is no debate which is better...live poker is GREAT, but on those days you want to play at 2 am and want to lay in bed and play online works out nicely.....there are morons lined up to play online...and yes at times i do think online seems so rigged and live you can not have that complaint


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